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apartheid in south africa to the battle over obama care. >> he was fighting against some great injustice. i would make the argument we have a great injustice going on right now in this country with an ever-increasing size of government that has taken over and is controlling people's lives and obama care is front and center in that. >> ryan, what gives? >> i think we have to add apartheid -- >> f.w. de klerk, such a better person than mitch mcconnell. >> we have to add apartheid to that list of issues you shouldn't compare in modern american politics -- >> right. naziism, slavery, apartheid. >> there are issues that were unique historically and no matter how bad you think things are in american politics right now, comparisons are never going to be apt. >> nelson mandela supported universal health care. i think the comparison, like the pope, i think the comparison is kind of -- >> i would tell you this. i think neither side should be using the man, a dead man, deceased man we are honoring to make cheap political shots. >> amen to that. ana, ryan, neera, you guys continue in the green room. >>
obama done as much as his predecessor? >> it's very phenomenal tha aids initiative and for global fund, which the u.s. participates with many other countries in giving. and bush took the leadership, but he had democrats really supporting him. now you've got president obama taking the lead, taking this to a new level and he's got strong republican support. so even though it's kind of exceptional, it's really made a huge difference that everyone's come together to have the u.s. lead the way. >> you are incredibly focused on the issue of giving. you have pledged along with warren buffett and mark zuckerberg to give a majority of your wealth to philanthropy. forbes lists you as the richest person in america at $72 billion. a lot of people ask this question. have you decided how much you are going to leave to your children? >> well, certainly melinda and i think that kids starting off with $1 billion or some huge -- any huge amount of wealth is not necessarily in their interest as well as in the interest of society, and so the vast majority of our money will go to the foundation and we are
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